A video of Lois Griffin twerking is your rare Reels pull of the day. Its creator, Baby Alien, is somewhat prolific. Name a cartoon character, he's probably drawn them, morphing them into a beautiful plus-size woman.
Gender-swapping, camel toes and stretch marks are all part of the recipe. Almost nothing is sacred when he's surfing channels late at night.
On the other hand, he leans towards domestic southern scenes with figures following the same XL build, but without the Nickelodeon rights attached.
He's married and on a phone call with us this month, we caught him on a car ride with his wife running errands. (The brunt of our conversation took place in the Walmart parking lot while she was inside shopping.)
Baby Alien makes art for his community, which is the hood. But a large portion of his internet following is irony-poisoned meme page admins who don't understand where it's coming from. He wants followers who understand him, but at the same time, he's impulsive, and it automatically produces some impulsive images of forbidden characters, spoken in the language of IP, resonating passed his line of sight.
He's got some good stories, a nice laugh, and deep cartoon knowledge. If you've been following him for a while, this is what he has to say.
Well, you ever seen '90s art with Bugs Bunny and he wearing baggy clothes? At first, I probably drew Lola Bunny, like plus-size. Back then it was a joke but it ended up being an ongoing thing to where I'm drawing a whole bunch of cartoon characters reimagined.
It's like cosplay but in a cartoon format, in a plus-size way.
And I'm not into drawing men. I like to draw plus-size women because that's what I know.
I thought plus-size women was a normal thing until I reached a certain age and realized that it wasn't normal to be fat. Then I felt kind of like, why is it not normal to be fat? Like, why is it not accepted?
I thought something was wrong with skinny people when I was growing up. That's why my art's so freshly detailed because fat's what I accept and what I know.
So when and where did you first post your work?
Facebook and it was in a small little group. Before that, I learned how to draw in elementary but I got better at drawing when I went to jail.
When I got outta jail, I started self-teaching myself how to do digital art and that's when I started posting up on Facebook and getting feedback. It just went from there. I'm pretty sure that was 15 years ago.
So when did your page start blowing up? What was the post that really went off?
When I started doing animation. I think it was twerking Dora? Dora was the first time I hit 2 million views.
Baby Alien sharing the "2 million view" news. (Source)
What's your earliest memory of drawing?
My daddy used to draw when I was a kid or whatever. That goes back to what I said. He used to spray paint Bugs Bunny up on buildings—draw the little old school Bugs Bunny with baggy clothes, saying, "Kicking it old school," or whatever. He used to do that and I used to be like, "Stop drawing fucking men all the time."
But, like, in third grade, I couldn't draw people but I could draw, like, a detailed vagina [laughs].
And the reason why I couldn't draw a person was because all of my classmates was into Dragon Ball Z and shit and I hate drawing men—sweaty six packs and all that… Wasn't into it. So I had to find something that I was into.
I got in trouble about that in the third grade. So I had to stop drawing for a little minute… Like a good little, up until like high school. That's when I started drawing full figure women, coming out way more detailed and shit.
When I went to jail, I ended up doing about three months, and all I was able to do was just draw and draw. That's when I got so good at stretch marks and all that extra shit.
What did your friends in jail think about your art?
I was drawing for like snacks and shit because they used to tell me to draw a vagina or something so they could go whack off in the closet.
That's how I got in trouble in third grade too because I had ended up drawing a vagina for one of the kids, and I think the teacher went through his binder, and they seen a picture, and asked him who drew it, and of course I had "Baby Alien" signed on there. They said, "Who the hell is Baby Alien?" Because I've been saying Baby Alien since I was a kid.
They found my notebook with all my drawings in there and they just, yeah… That was some real weird shit, to see like a hundred pages of vaginas.
But in jail, I probably draw a lady spreading her booty cheeks for a honey bun. So it was cool in jail. Shit was fun.
You've had "Baby Alien" since you were a kid? Do you remember where the nickname comes from?
I got high one day. I got so fucking high… And then the question just popped up in my head because "Baby Alien" is really a question.
I got high and I asked everybody in my household—my mom and my sister; oldest brother and two of their friends—I asked each one of them a question, "What would you do if you see a baby alien right now? What would you do if a baby alien was sitting in front of you?”
They responses was just so fucking funny. One of 'em said they'll kill him. One of 'em said they'll hide him and take care of him. And the other one be like, "I'll keep 'em away from the world because they're going to want to basically explore who the fuck they is." Like, "It's a baby alien!" You're like, "What the fuck?" You're curious!
They responses was so crazy but I kind of connected with it because that's what it is when people first see me. They don't know what to think of me. They don't know how to approach me. I done heard all type of crazy shit just because I'm just drawing a fat character.
Yeah, it's a baby—so you don't want to kill it—but it's an alien so, maybe you do want to kill it.
Yeah, like, this shit is not normal… But it's a baby. That's where that name come from and I see a lot of people using it, like I'm aware of that fucking pornstar midget using it. I'm like, come on now.
I think that was the last time I smoked too, because I don't smoke no more. That shit was way when I was 11 years old and I'm 30 now. I've had that name for some years.
All right, I want you to react to something. It's a tweet that's calling you the most dangerous man on Instagram. Did you see this one? It's from a few years ago.
@HoesLuvTravis - This is the most dangerous man on Instagram. (Source)
Years ago… Dangerous man on Instagram… See, let's go back to the Baby Alien. Once you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't. But that's what art is made for. It's made for people to have different feelings.
When I draw art, I feel like only my people, like just the hood gonna understand it, like people where I'm from which is like… This is Baton Rouge, Louisiana. This is a Louisiana thing.
But I be forgetting that the world look at us as fucking weirdos sometimes and I be forgetting that ghetto is not good in certain parts.
Everybody want to be ghetto and all that, but ghetto is not good. A lot of this is expressing the ghetto in a different way, a ghetto situation, all that. They could say I'm a dangerous man, but I don't mean no harm or no shit like that.
Sometimes, it's like you choose a challenging character to make into a hot girl. Is this sometimes just a challenge for you? Like right now, I'm looking at an image you made of Plank from Ed, Edd n Eddy.
When it comes down to art, you get in the zone. I don't remember when I'm making it because, a lot of times, I probably be bored, probably watching a certain show, somebody probably said a trigger word that made my brain just go that direction. Only artists will understand when they have a little burst of creativity flow through their body and shit just burst out.
Now with Plank, I was just scrolling through Ed, Edd n Eddy pictures and I was like, he might be fucking that board [laughs].
I'm gonna send you another one of your drawings that seems like it was a challenge. It's a Family Guy character, like the son of the news anchor. I don't remember his name…
Yeah, with this one, I watch a lot of Family Guy, so I was watching one day and he popped up on the episode. I said, "Shit, I got to do it. That shit weird. I got to do it."
Alright, yeah, so it is kind of a challenge for you, like you sometimes wanna do the weirdest thing possible?
Nah, it's just that… Normal shit don't move me. That's why I don't take commissions because sometimes if it don't move me—if it don't feel like it needs to be done—I'm not gonna do it.
It ain't for the "weirdest shit," but it's just—if I see it, I got to get it out.
So who's your favorite character to draw?
I paint and in my house I have a lot of Marge. I don't even fucking watch The Simpsons but I like doing Marge. I love doing Megan from Family Guy. Who else? Hey Arnold, like Helga, and Shrek and Fiona.
Are there any characters you've never drawn or refuse to draw?
I was off limits for Pokémon for a minute, but I ended up slipping and doing that.
I try to stay away from up-aging kid characters. I hate the comments that come with that. That's why it's not fun drawing no more. A lot of stuff off limits and a lot of characters are kids and shit. So for me, I'm gonna be drawing the same ones, same rotation.
Are there any people in your life or things that you do daily that inspire your work?
My wife give me inspiration. Maybe where I'm at… Man, I'm in the hood, man. My mama… Everybody's fat around me. There's art everywhere.
Who are you outside the page?
Pshh… A gangster [laughs].
Shit, how would I explain myself? I work in a plant. I'm a father, married, I got a nice house. I live a normal life. I'm very fashionable. I'm just a laid back family guy, chilling.
Do you have two pet bunnies?
Three now. We got Lola, Apes and Berry.
Is Lola after Lola Bunny?
Yeah, she named after Lola Bunny because she the same color as Lola Bunny and very active.
So obviously all of your work is focused on women. What's your type?
I prefer big women and they got to have real cute faces, real chunky faces and shit.
I can't say it's in my art because, if someone see my art, they probably go to the worst picture and be like, "That's the type," when I probably was just bullshitting.
I like a very perfect women with confidence who know how to take care of theyself—not slouching, not dusty—beautiful women that got stuff going for theyself, like if you confident and you happy.
As a big women expert, do you have any preferences or red flags?
Yeah, I don't like double chins and wide ankles. I hate them double chins that look like when a frog or something breathe. That neck swell up with it and it, "Rrr-"; they head floating… And when they ankles just so wide in the front so they can't put on shoes.
I love… I love a healthy big girl. I don't like the ones that be on "600 Pound Life" that can't walk and shit and only take neck-up pictures.
Just a healthy big girl. If you got health issues, you got to get rid of that shit. Even though it might look good, you have to lose it if your life fucked up. If you can't walk, if you stink and can't wash your body down, that shit is a turnoff… But that's what they'll affiliate big women with.
It's different types of 'em, just like it's different types of fucking skinny women. They got to understand that.
I got a post I'm sending you. It's your own post with your wife on Christmas. You're wearing a shirt and you got a Christmas list on the back with a bunch of-
Is there a perfect combo? Or could you rank these things?
…Back fat, potato salad arms, stretch marks and cellulite… What the fuck was I thinking when I made that? Hold on [laughs].
It's not that deep but that's how you sums up a big girl. A real big girl got all those qualities. But I was just putting shit on the back [laughs] because my girl don't got no potato salad arms.
What does "potato salad arms" mean?
They have this thing in the Black community where if a woman, like a grandma, got some big-ass fat arms—just some jiggly, fat arms—that means she makes some good potato salad. It do look like potato salad too so, you could put it like that, like the texture.
What is a first date with Baby Alien like?
I'm big on food, so we about to eat. Maybe we go to a trampoline place and jump or do some child shit, like go to Dave and Busters, go to arcades and shit and play games.
On the first date, I'm tryna show you how fun shit is. I can hear serious shit on the second date, but the first date, let's just enjoy each other vibe.
Do you have any dating advice for someone who's into big girls?
Don't date girls that take pictures neck up. Don't mess with big girls with a lot of kids. Make sure you smell it before you make promises. See 'em in person. See how they dress. Most of all, be proud of her when you get her.
Show her off.
Don't never hide what you worked so hard to get.
I'm just saying, make sure it's the right big girl. Make sure that she not stank. Make sure she can walk. Don't get one that gonna sit there with no job and just have you working and feedin' her ass [laughs].
And don't fuck with the ones that offer to take care of you. You be a man.
Has anyone given you shit for your art? Like on average, do bigger women appreciate what you do?
I mean, the internet… They gonna do shit. I had people make up stupid shit on the internet and all that, but in real life… I don't get that in real life.
In real life, nobody approached me no type of way, and it can't be on no bullying shit. They will get fucked over.
In real life, I don't like being noticed because they'll do some weird shit and I can't read it. I'm in one of the murder capitals of the world. I can't read people's actions all the time. Sometimes they'll be trying to congratulate me and I take it as like, you trying to harm me? I be trying to be lowkey but I get noticed sometimes.
My favorite interaction was when a kid with autism- Well, he was a grown man. He seen me at Walmart and he, "Oh my God, it's you! Oh my god, it's you!"
I was like, what the fuck?
And he like, "I love you! I love you!"
And we left out the aisle and I was checking out. He came, ran back up on me and had gave me a hug. "I just want to tell you, I love you! Your art is the best," and he ran off again.
I was like, what the fuck [laughs]?
But that was one of my favorites because that was a wholesome moment, when I caught on that he had autism and shit.
I liked it, then I didn't like it. I was like, man, this probably be porn to him. This probably be the first [laughs], it might be the only twerking video he ever seen and shit! I'm like, man, no man.
I've had a few moments like that. I feel bad at what they liking me for because I do be drawing some wild shit so, what picture got him acting like that? What video got him acting like that? So, it's good and it's bad.
I got a video from your page that I'm going to send you. I just want to understand the context. You seem pretty upset, like you're defending yourself. Why were people upset with you?
Oh, I had a friend from Atlanta. Her page got deleted and she wanted me to repost a picture. She paid me about $50 for a repost, but she was, like, skinny—a dark skinny chick.
She a stripper and she sent me an almost nude picture—you know, she posing with everything covered. So I post it, but that was my first time posting a skinny person up on my page.
Man… Them comments went crazy! They was like, "Oh fuck no, you switching sides? Get this anorexic- Anorexic is not- Ew, get her off! She look nasty!" It was like posting a skinny person in a fat world.
So I told her, I was like, "Baby girl…" I gave her all her money back like, "Man, I cannot promote you!"
That picture, I say in 10 minutes, had over 50 comments. Then when I doubled back and looked, she was responding back to them comments! Then Instagram ain't know what the hell to report. There was bad language, harassment… This damn page almost got deleted that day! I ain't know shit could get violated that many times.
Then, they started picking out every character I drew that looked like they were skinny and reported that. I was like, "Come on now. They tripping!" I had to post that video to explain myself.
I watch Family Guy to go to sleep. I watch a lot of Bob's Burgers, King of the Hill and I love Boondocks. Boondocks would be my favorite… And I'm a huge Pokémon fan because that's some childhood shit. It still stick with me to this day. I love Pokémon and Boondocks.
What's your favorite food?
Macaroni and cheese. All types of macaroni. I'm trying to try all the macaroni and cheese in the world to see people point of view and different ways to make it. But most of all, I'm a burger and pasta person, period.
But macaroni cheese is my top. I eat that shit until I get sick.
What was your last dream?
I'm so old that I don't remember my dreams. My dreams be like me going to jail and shit [laugh]. That's why I don't remember them. My dreams be me going to jail or fighting dinosaurs and shit. It depends on what I'm scared of at the time.
My last dream that I can remember, we all went hungry because Trump ended up signing something. He signed something and it was like the main source of food from China. And then China was like, "Fuck that. We cutting y'all food supply off."
All we had was like, vegetables and shit. Everybody started losing weight and getting skinny, then they started eating each other. It was some wild shit like that. It was basically a zombie movie and we were just killing people to survive [laughs].
I also just had a dream that I got pulled over and I went to jail for a suspended driver's license. I'm just glad I woke up and I was at home.
All right. Fuck, marry, kill: Lois Griffin, Marge Simpson and Linda Belcher.
Is Lois a good woman? She faithful as fuck to Peter… She a good woman to Peter… And do she take care of Stewie? That's a deep one. I think in real life, Lois is fine. She's a real white woman and the bitch freaky. I'd marry Lois.
What the next one was? Marge? She depressed… Smash, but I wouldn't marry.
And Linda… I love Linda. I'd marry Linda… Her voice…
Where are you headed with your art, with your music, with your life? What's next for you?
Art could go a million ways. It could be clothing, selling prints, but right now the art is like… It's really coming to a standstill.
I might just end it all one day 'cause I be having moments like that. You might look and that whole Instagram page be gone.
But locally, I'm selling my paintings in my community. I've been doing that more because I'm ready for another chapter.
With the music, I'm trying to release music this year, probably like a little song every month or every week 'cause I got a lot of music I could just release.
My personal life, dog… I'm trying to move on to be bigger and better. I'm trying to get a better car, better house, and a better life. So I'm just working. Whatever happens, happens. I need some fucking rich type money.
You asked me stuff I don't really think about, but when I think about it, I just, my mind gets scrambled because art is universal. You just got to find out what's your niche with it.
So I sent you this post before we started, but I just sent it to you again. What do you think of this, of what this person is saying?
@echompls "One of our greatest living American artists" tweet. (Source)
Man, it's always amazing to hear somebody say something good about your art.
That was like an amazing feeling or whatever. I wish there was more people like that. I wanted to cry when I see that shit [laughs].
I still don't know who it was that posted that. When he posted, I knew something was going on because my page went crazy. I think it was like 2,000 followers from that.
And that shit amazing because when I look at my followers, I'm supposed to be having way more fucking followers like him because you know he gets it. He understand, like he picked out the details, which was like the Daiquiris cup, the vibe of the picture and shit, you know, the elements like that, the '90s style, gold earrings and everything. You could see where that picture comes from just by looking at it. You could tell, like, it's some southern shit.
So I felt real good about that picture. I was happy about that. I gotta reach out to whoever that is.
There are a thousand ways to dress
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There are a thousand ways to dress
And 1
I'm going for that
And 1
You feel me?
You see me?
There are a thousand ways to dress
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